A Shame to Poker....
I'm sure pretty much everybody who reads my blog (all 4 or 5 of you, lol) has seen the movie "Rounders." One of the main characters is Worm, who always looks for an edge, cheating all the time to make sure he doesn't lose. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we have a "Worm" at our Tuesday night home games at Phillip's.
Ok so we have tourneys over there on Sunday nights and cash games on Tuesdays. On Sunday, a regular over there who I'm good friends with said he saw another guy who's pretty much a regular, (we'll just call him Worm), doing what appeared to be cheating. He said Worm would pretty much set the deck up on his deal to make it where he got AA, or very close to it. We use 2 decks over there to keep the pace flowing, so while one person is dealing, the next person would be shuffling the other deck to be ready for their deal. Well, this just gives him all the time he needs to set it up. He said he was suspicious so he started looking at Worm's hand without him knowing... either when he held his cards too high or after all cards were in the muck. He said he had AA like 4 or 5 times on his deal!! By the way, Worm doesn't come on most Sundays, so of course he wasn't there while the guy was telling us all this. So we decided to wait until Tuesday when he always comes, and just watch him, and not say anything about it yet if it was true.
So last night I go out there for the Tuesday night cash game, with a min buyin of $50 and max of $100, and .50/1.00 blinds, No Limit. And of course, Worm shows up. He's at my table too, and I'm sitting directly across from him in perfect position to see what he does. For about an hour I think nothing of it and have pretty much forgotten about it all, until he's dealing. He raises and Phillip goes allin for his last $18, and Worm calls with... you guessed it... AA. Phillip has AK and the case Ace flops. Now the AK and the Ace on the flop may not have been set up, just very unlucky, but the AA was definitely enough to get me watching him. And after that hand, another player, who sat directly to the right of him, told me she forgot to cut that hand. So I was waiting for his deal again so I could see whats up.
Ok so it comes back to his deal... this guy is an idiot. It's plain as day what he's doing, because I saw it over and over. While the hand before his deal was going on, he was "preparing" the next deck for his deal. He would kind of be looking at the cards while he mixed them up, and I was watching him actually count and line them up!! I wasn't looking directly at him the whole time of course, because he was looking around to make sure nobody was paying attention. But then once he got his cards set, he would do the most retarded looking fake shuffle I've ever seen. Every now and then he would really shuffle, but EVERYTIME he did this, he left about the top 20 or so cards on top, always making sure his stayed up there. Then he would proceed to his fake cut, where he would separate the top 20 or so cards from the rest, have them on the bottom with his finger keeping the "real" top card separated from the rest, while he was cutting up the other cards on top. He would then take the "real" top cards and put them back on top of the ones he just cut. I was ready to see what he would get, but this time the player on his right cut the deck.... man, I really wanted to bust him out! Oh well, I'll wait until his next deal.
So its back on him to deal, and he does his little set up. Now the player on his right cuts again, but only the top card, so she would get the same exact hand he was supposed to get. Brilliant! She had obviously been watching him too. I can tell that this "one card" cut wasn't something he liked. And when he was dealing the last 2 or 3 cards out, he kind of dealt them a little off the mark on purpose, in an attempt to mix them up because he obviously thought we were trying to catch him. But we followed them closely and knew which card belonged to which person... and he was still trying to call for a misdeal because he was so worried... Haha it was so funny. So anyway, everyone agreed to a misdeal, basically because we all wanted to see what he would've gotten. So the player to his right flips up her cards... AK. At this point he seems to be aware that we are on to him and pretty much stops his set ups. He goes on to lose over $500 in a game where nobody should lose over about $200 lol.
Now I just talked to Phillip about it a few minutes ago, and he said nobody said anything to Worm. They are just going to watch him very very closely and not let it happen again. If he tries something, the person next to him always knows to cut the cards now anyway. Sometimes in the past they've actually cut them and it prevented his plan from working, but alot of times they don't because he would start dealing too quickly, and by the time they say they didn't cut, they would just let it go because they don't want to have to re-shuffle and everything because it takes too long. It could've been caught alot earlier, but alot of times when he has AA on his button, he doesn't have to showdown so nobody ever knows. So anway, they are going to continue to let him play for the simple reason that, well, he sucks. Despite his cheating, he is still down well over $1,000 since he's been coming, and they, and me, want that to continue. I've told Phillip that if someone forgets to cut and I get KK and get allin against his AA in the future, well, then its going down. There's no way he's pulling that crap on me. But as long as everybody keeps an eye out and cuts, we will keep getting his money. Its funny... he thinks he's hustling us, but everybody there knows he's a cheater, but he's so bad that everybody wants him to keep coming rather than to bust him out!!! Now who's being hustled homey?
On another note, I'm leaving for Tunica tomorrow. When I get back I'll post all about my trip, unless I get online up there, then I may post sooner. Wish me luck!!
Ok so we have tourneys over there on Sunday nights and cash games on Tuesdays. On Sunday, a regular over there who I'm good friends with said he saw another guy who's pretty much a regular, (we'll just call him Worm), doing what appeared to be cheating. He said Worm would pretty much set the deck up on his deal to make it where he got AA, or very close to it. We use 2 decks over there to keep the pace flowing, so while one person is dealing, the next person would be shuffling the other deck to be ready for their deal. Well, this just gives him all the time he needs to set it up. He said he was suspicious so he started looking at Worm's hand without him knowing... either when he held his cards too high or after all cards were in the muck. He said he had AA like 4 or 5 times on his deal!! By the way, Worm doesn't come on most Sundays, so of course he wasn't there while the guy was telling us all this. So we decided to wait until Tuesday when he always comes, and just watch him, and not say anything about it yet if it was true.
So last night I go out there for the Tuesday night cash game, with a min buyin of $50 and max of $100, and .50/1.00 blinds, No Limit. And of course, Worm shows up. He's at my table too, and I'm sitting directly across from him in perfect position to see what he does. For about an hour I think nothing of it and have pretty much forgotten about it all, until he's dealing. He raises and Phillip goes allin for his last $18, and Worm calls with... you guessed it... AA. Phillip has AK and the case Ace flops. Now the AK and the Ace on the flop may not have been set up, just very unlucky, but the AA was definitely enough to get me watching him. And after that hand, another player, who sat directly to the right of him, told me she forgot to cut that hand. So I was waiting for his deal again so I could see whats up.
Ok so it comes back to his deal... this guy is an idiot. It's plain as day what he's doing, because I saw it over and over. While the hand before his deal was going on, he was "preparing" the next deck for his deal. He would kind of be looking at the cards while he mixed them up, and I was watching him actually count and line them up!! I wasn't looking directly at him the whole time of course, because he was looking around to make sure nobody was paying attention. But then once he got his cards set, he would do the most retarded looking fake shuffle I've ever seen. Every now and then he would really shuffle, but EVERYTIME he did this, he left about the top 20 or so cards on top, always making sure his stayed up there. Then he would proceed to his fake cut, where he would separate the top 20 or so cards from the rest, have them on the bottom with his finger keeping the "real" top card separated from the rest, while he was cutting up the other cards on top. He would then take the "real" top cards and put them back on top of the ones he just cut. I was ready to see what he would get, but this time the player on his right cut the deck.... man, I really wanted to bust him out! Oh well, I'll wait until his next deal.
So its back on him to deal, and he does his little set up. Now the player on his right cuts again, but only the top card, so she would get the same exact hand he was supposed to get. Brilliant! She had obviously been watching him too. I can tell that this "one card" cut wasn't something he liked. And when he was dealing the last 2 or 3 cards out, he kind of dealt them a little off the mark on purpose, in an attempt to mix them up because he obviously thought we were trying to catch him. But we followed them closely and knew which card belonged to which person... and he was still trying to call for a misdeal because he was so worried... Haha it was so funny. So anyway, everyone agreed to a misdeal, basically because we all wanted to see what he would've gotten. So the player to his right flips up her cards... AK. At this point he seems to be aware that we are on to him and pretty much stops his set ups. He goes on to lose over $500 in a game where nobody should lose over about $200 lol.
Now I just talked to Phillip about it a few minutes ago, and he said nobody said anything to Worm. They are just going to watch him very very closely and not let it happen again. If he tries something, the person next to him always knows to cut the cards now anyway. Sometimes in the past they've actually cut them and it prevented his plan from working, but alot of times they don't because he would start dealing too quickly, and by the time they say they didn't cut, they would just let it go because they don't want to have to re-shuffle and everything because it takes too long. It could've been caught alot earlier, but alot of times when he has AA on his button, he doesn't have to showdown so nobody ever knows. So anway, they are going to continue to let him play for the simple reason that, well, he sucks. Despite his cheating, he is still down well over $1,000 since he's been coming, and they, and me, want that to continue. I've told Phillip that if someone forgets to cut and I get KK and get allin against his AA in the future, well, then its going down. There's no way he's pulling that crap on me. But as long as everybody keeps an eye out and cuts, we will keep getting his money. Its funny... he thinks he's hustling us, but everybody there knows he's a cheater, but he's so bad that everybody wants him to keep coming rather than to bust him out!!! Now who's being hustled homey?
On another note, I'm leaving for Tunica tomorrow. When I get back I'll post all about my trip, unless I get online up there, then I may post sooner. Wish me luck!!
posted by BrandonAU @ 11:55 AM
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